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		<title>By: Rainers Blog &#187; J2ME Bluetooth deployer task</title>
		<link>http://javablog.co.uk/2007/12/31/bluetooth-deployer/comment-page-1/#comment-9577</link>
		<dc:creator>Rainers Blog &#187; J2ME Bluetooth deployer task</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://javablog.co.uk/2007/12/31/bluetooth-deployer/comment-page-1/#comment-6047</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@atleta ... what you call deploy is not what deploy means. Deploy means install on the device. It is entirely up to the device to decide what questions to ask to do that, and given the SSL certification, you&#039;re not going to be able to do that without a quantum computer.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@atleta &#8230; what you call deploy is not what deploy means. Deploy means install on the device. It is entirely up to the device to decide what questions to ask to do that, and given the SSL certification, you&#8217;re not going to be able to do that without a quantum computer.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: atleta</title>
		<link>http://javablog.co.uk/2007/12/31/bluetooth-deployer/comment-page-1/#comment-6044</link>
		<dc:creator>atleta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not bad, but what I always wanted is something that actually &lt;em&gt;deploys&lt;/em&gt; the application on the phone by the touch of a button on the PC, so that you dont have to press OK 5 times in a row. (As far as I know the MS .net compact framework SDK does this. At least that&#039;s what I heard from a colleague of mine who tried it.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That would need device support of course or some device dependent hacking. I was thinking something like installing the app the normal way then look at the folders where the real stuff went (jar file or its extracted contents) and then overwrite those using BT file transfer (e.g. FTP if the phone supports it). I&#039;m not sure if it would work or not but it may be woth a try.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>

<p>Not bad, but what I always wanted is something that actually <em>deploys</em> the application on the phone by the touch of a button on the PC, so that you dont have to press OK 5 times in a row. (As far as I know the MS .net compact framework SDK does this. At least that&#8217;s what I heard from a colleague of mine who tried it.)</p>

<p>That would need device support of course or some device dependent hacking. I was thinking something like installing the app the normal way then look at the folders where the real stuff went (jar file or its extracted contents) and then overwrite those using BT file transfer (e.g. FTP if the phone supports it). I&#8217;m not sure if it would work or not but it may be woth a try.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://javablog.co.uk/2007/12/31/bluetooth-deployer/comment-page-1/#comment-4239</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 01:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Vlad, I intentionally don&#039;t search for devices and services. A service search would be useful but that demands a device search first. That would mean:-&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;making the devices discoverable (not good for workflow... Motorola tend to only be discoverable for 60 seconds after user intervention)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;making the tool interactive (not good for automation in an ant task)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But there would certainly be room for essentially creating a Java version of Bluetooth File Exchange. I&#039;ve found it to be an invaluable tool.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Incidentally, I really like the &lt;i&gt;OBEX Push with your application&lt;/i&gt; application of your tool :-) It&#039;s a shame that (some form of) JSR-82 doesn&#039;t come as part of J2SE. I guess that would drive all the network operators mad though... no data transfer charges for installing games!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Vlad, I intentionally don&#8217;t search for devices and services. A service search would be useful but that demands a device search first. That would mean:-</p>

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<li>making the devices discoverable (not good for workflow&#8230; Motorola tend to only be discoverable for 60 seconds after user intervention)</li>
<li>making the tool interactive (not good for automation in an ant task)</li>
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<p>But there would certainly be room for essentially creating a Java version of Bluetooth File Exchange. I&#8217;ve found it to be an invaluable tool.</p>

<p>Incidentally, I really like the <i>OBEX Push with your application</i> application of your tool <img src='http://javablog.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  It&#8217;s a shame that (some form of) JSR-82 doesn&#8217;t come as part of J2SE. I guess that would drive all the network operators mad though&#8230; no data transfer charges for installing games!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Vlad</title>
		<link>http://javablog.co.uk/2007/12/31/bluetooth-deployer/comment-page-1/#comment-4231</link>
		<dc:creator>Vlad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To make app really useful you need to search for OBEX service on device or pass it as parameter.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The GUI application like this is here:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.bluecove.org/bluecove-examples/obex-install/index.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just need to make it more command line friendly.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Do you want to work on it?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To make app really useful you need to search for OBEX service on device or pass it as parameter.</p>

<p>The GUI application like this is here:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.bluecove.org/bluecove-examples/obex-install/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bluecove.org/bluecove-examples/obex-install/index.html</a></p>

<p>Just need to make it more command line friendly.</p>

<p>Do you want to work on it?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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