Comments on: Apple OS X Leopard doesn’t have Java 6

By: Javablog » Apple OS X Leopard doesn’t have Java 6 by CRACKMAC.COM

Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:43:19 +0000

[…] Javablog » Apple OS X Leopard doesn’t have Java 6 And worse yet… if you installed the Java 6 beta release in Apple OS X Tiger, then when you upgrade Java won’t work at all! Read on if this has affected you… […]

By: Luke

Luke — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:25:33 +0000

Thank you, this works fine for me. I only had to remove in addition the Java 1.6 directories and also the A and the Current directory from

/System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions

Thank you for these nice instructions.

Regarding Apple: I like Apple and don't blame them for breaking a beta DP version of something when installing a new OS version. What I don't like is that they did not come up with instructions like yours on their support pages. Having JDK 1.6 DP installed when upgrading to 10.5 has killed all my Java-based apps - and that was not very nice. I was not able to get any Java work done on my Mac for more than a week.

By: Bobby

Bobby — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:42:53 +0000

Can’t thank you enough for this post. I was at the point of reinstalling the OS…thanks for saving me many hours. Luckily, I have the option of using Java 5 for my app and can get on with my life.

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Tue, 30 Oct 2007 05:04:39 +0000

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By: Liam Clancy (metafeathe)

Liam Clancy (metafeathe) — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:32:46 +0000

If you are a full time Mac based Java Developer, I suggest getting a Apple Select Developer Membership ($499), get your 20% discount on hardware for a nice new MacBook Pro:

http://developer.apple.com/membership/hardware.html

save minimum $400 on hardware, get free seed versions of OS X (save $129) and look under the ‘Java’ section of the Developer Connection.

If you are in the UK then claim back the cost of the MacBook Pro to boot:

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/helpsheets/ir206.pdf

If you are not, you can wait a few weeks whilst the rest of us feedback on bugs to Apple to make sure everything is cosy.

By: David Spector

David Spector — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:37:55 +0000

Everyone needs to CALM DOWN over this! A little perspective please… did you know that with EVERY SINGLE MAC OS X RELEASE Apple has released a major Java update within a couple of weeks of the release?

See for yourself:

http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2007/10/28/os-x-java-definitive-timeline/

By: Rodrigo Recio

Rodrigo Recio — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:00:16 +0000

Java 6 installed on Tiger doesn’t work on Leopard because it isn’t 64 bit yet

By: Llaith

Llaith — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 06:58:00 +0000

I too am VERY disappointed with this. I am an enterprise java developer working who tried apple with the first mini then became a switcher with the intel MBP. I think Apple should realize that although we are a small segment of their market we generally have a great deal of clout in the organizations where we work. My peers and I generally work as ‘architects’ or IT/SD/Dev managers, where our recomendations on hardware are acted on because it’s a minor cost compared to the dev team itself. I would love to be able to try using xserves and mandate a deployment of MBP’s to the dev team, but this lack of java updates has completely blown this out of the water. It may seem as though JSE1.6 isn’t used in production, but in fact our projects generally take 12-18 months so work starts with a version of Java well before people will see it in the wild. Apple needs to at LEAST make a statement on their Java plans with a roadmap NOW!

By: efef

efef — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:22:36 +0000

Hm, anyone having problems with Eclipse on Leopard?

I’ve installed Leo on iMac and MBP and on both systems my Eclipse became quite unstable. On Tiger, it was very stable.

It has crashed at least ten times already (JVM crash with Report a problem to Apple dialog), while on Tiger it crashed like only once within 3 months.

Most often I can crash it by opening many different files, mainly internal Java classes (with apple+shift+t) like LinkedBlockingQueue and then ConcurrentLinkedQueue and then adding some others. Suddenly when trying to open yet another file it crashes, but I can’t always reproduce it. It says either bus error or some other kernel exception problem. Oh, it also crashed just a moment ago when closing Eclipse (after pressing apple+q).

On iMac I made a clean install of Leo (archive and install) while on MBP I made standard upgrade install from Tiger. I’ve tried eclipse 3.3 and nightly build (3.4).

I’ve send several crash reports to Apple already, but somehow I fill that they won’t even look at those before next year

By: Paul

Paul — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:51:13 +0000

@Kenneth: I've tried Ubuntu before, using it for over a year at my previous position, and this situation is way too minor for me to consider going back to it, let alone buy new hardware. The OSX experience has been far more pleasant, and I see no evidence that this issue with Java 6 isn't temporary.

@Tech Per: "I believe the same hardware can be obtained for lower prices in a standard pc laptop." Not so much. I heard the same claim on various blogs, like Mark Pilgrim's. When I go to PC laptop websites (such as Dell, Lenovo, etc) and start comparing hardware with similar features, there's no significant price different. Hell, sometimes the Mac is a smidge cheaper.

And to be fair to Mark, his impression of PC laptop pricing was coloured by the fact that he was able to buy one at a deep discount from his employer.